Mary’s Vulva: Jesus Christ, Vesica Pisces and the Christian Fish Symbol

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Many of the stories in the biblical gospel stories have mathematical significance, like the name of Jesus, and use numbers to convey sacred geometrics. Jesus often says things like, “Let those who have ears, hear!” or “Let those who have eyes, see!” alluding to the need to seek a deeper interpretation for his parables. He also chastises his apostles frequently for not understanding the actual significance behind his stories.

One example is the appearance of Jesus on the shore of Tiberias, after he has been resurrected. He comes to his disciples (who, incidentally, had all abandoned him and returned to fishing), and helps them catch exactly 153 fish. While this number may seem like a supercilious detail – its very lack of significance lending credence to the idea that this miracle really took place – in fact it has a very serious role to play.

There is a similar story about Pythagoras, and although the exact number of fish that Pythagoras caught has been lost, it may well have been the same figure. 153 was a sacred number Pythagorean communities, a number with special significance. The fish, and the number, are references to a mathematical principle often used in the mysteries called Vesica Piscis, or the “measure of the fish.”

When two equal circles are joined so that the perimeter of one passes the epicenter of the other, it produces a third, intermediate section, which resembles the shape of a fish. This section further contains two equilateral triangles. The mathematical ratio of its width (measured to the endpoints of the body) is nearly 265:153, yielding the number 1.73203, or the square root of 3. This can be confirmed using Euclid’s 47th Proposition.

This symbol was used in the mysteries to show the unification of divine principles. Three circles joined this way were used to represent the eternal trinity; Father, Son and Holy Spirit, united in one God. In the mysteries of Ephesus, the Goddess wore this symbol over her genital region, and in the Osiris story, the lost penis was swallowed by a fish which represented the vulva of Isis. Likewise, in many examples of Christian art, Jesus Christ is proceeding from this symbol, representing his birth from the Goddess.

As we’ve seen, the fish was also important as an astrological symbol of the coming age. Jesus was the savior linking the old age of Aries with the new age of Pisces; an astrological truth explored in later esoteric or mystical traditions.

The symbol of the fish was further empowered by making an acronym for Jesus Christ, along with his nature and title), from its Greek letters, ΙΧΘΥΣ (ichthus).

Iesous Christos Theou Uios Soter =

Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior

However, having refused allegorical meaning and interpretation, these details were left unexplained, and subsequently lost. Much like the original story, Christianity has maintained the external form of the Vesica Piscis, seen on a thousand posters, bumper stickers, and websites, without retaining any of the symbolic wisdom.

Without access to the allegorical meaning, the scriptures became obtuse and difficult, full of contradiction and confusing parables. Church fathers had to keep their flock away from communities who actually knew how to interpret these symbols, and taught that some of scripture’s secrets, like the natural world, were meant to be known only by God.

If, therefore, even with respect to creation, there are some things (the knowledge of) which belongs only to God, and others which come within the range of our own knowledge, what ground is there for complaint, if, in regard to those things which we investigate in the Scriptures (which are throughout spiritual), we are able by the grace of God to explain some of them, while we must leave others in the hands of God. (St. Iraneaus, Against the Heresies, Book 2, chap 8:3).

The very word, “mystery”, which used to mean a mystical experience of the divine, began to mean something which was simply forever kept a secret from us, or something that God had chosen not to reveal.

We should leave things of that nature to God who created us, being most properly assured that the scriptures are indeed perfect, since they were spoken by the Word of God and his Spirit; but we, inasmuch as we are inferior to, and later in existence than, the Word of God and His Spirit, are on that very account destitute of the knowledge of His mysteries. (St. Iraneaus, Against the Heresies, book 2 chap. 8:2)

The teachers of this form of Christianity, who had all the details but none of the spiritual implications, didn’t know what to tell their initiates when they came asking questions. Reason began to be viewed as an enemy to the truth, while blind faith in scripture, and a blind eye to anyone teaching different ideas, became the highest virtues.

“You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who have not seen me and yet believe.” (John 20:27)

Rather than question why their faith had so many critics, they claimed that God had made the gospel sound foolish as a stumbling block to all but the chosen; an idea also presented by Paul in defense of his new mysteries:

Since in the wisdom of God the world was unable to recognize God through wisdom, it was God’s own pleasure to save believers through the folly of the gospel. While the Jews demand miracles and the Greeks look for wisdom, we are preaching a crucified Christ: to the Jews an obstacle they cannot get over, to the Gentiles foolishness. (1 Corinthians 1:21)

In other words, for Paul, wisdom or rational argument would never satisfy the Greeks, and miracles would never satisfy the Jews, who were experienced in magical traditions. (Did Moses not already prove a greater miracle worker than the Pharaoh’s magicians?)

In a sense we could say that Paul was teaching a Zen-like mystical experience which surpassed both rational inquiry and empirical evidence – and he was: it was Gnosis, an internal divine wisdom.

However, although many pockets of mysticism have popped up in various epochs of the Christian faith, the majority of believers were taught to believe, despite evidence, that Jesus Christ was exactly who the Church claimed him to be.

This was not faith in God, or in the saving power of Jesus, but only faith in the truth of a historical event. Being “saved” by Jesus required nothing more than believing that this event had actually happened. Being “good” consisted of following Jesus’ ethical example and teachings, as well as always being on guard against those dangerous advocators of reason who said that your beliefs were incredible.

  • Jrseth

    I read the first part about the Christian symbol under the section with the
    same name. You do realize that you are twisting verses to make them mean
    what you want them to mean. There is no mysticism in the Bible.

    • ????

       
       
      Indications that Christ did not die on the cross
      Context first : every sane thinker, is supposed to announce the owner of any call or message , from the first day of his call for frameworks mission and its goals and purposes , this is what is going on really at the level of reality around us, and that in announcing an explicit and clear as well, especially if this calling a prophet and a messenger from the Lord of the objects .
       The true his allegations owners Gospels that Christ came into this world to die for redemption sin of Adam and Eve and then rise from the dead , it was Necessary him to announce to the people, His disciples, in particular from the first day of his call , if doing so had to wait all these students achieve this miracle and eagerly patience as well. Have checked the reported news of the Gospels to us, did not notice the landmarks of this natural phenomenon ,
       At the level of words, addressed the issue of News put the body of Christ in his tomb , which Joseph of Arimathea and put it to the notice of Jesus’ disciples gathered around the grave hour put the corpse in it, but did not notice the presence of two women there ,
       When the angel told: (( and there was Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, sitting toward the grave )) [Matthew 27: 61] , Where is the rest of the disciples of Jesus of Nazareth ?!
       And I said to myself that they may have agreed among themselves to come to his grave on Sunday morning exploring his resurrection , Checks in the four Gospels, and I was struck by that is these two women had not accelerated to the tomb at dawn on Sunday, then they are Rush to meet Christ after his resurrection, but according to what Roy Mark Rush Rub  to perfume the body of the deceased, It was reported: ((and then went on Saturday bought Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome Hanuta to come and Rub , and very early in the first week – that is, at dawn on Sunday – came to the tomb as the sun rises, they said among themselves: Who will roll away for us the stone from the door of the tomb ?
      Looking forward  and saw that the stone had been rolled back because it was very great )) [Mark 16: 1]  Women, and Mary Magdalene, from whom, Speeds up to the tomb on Sunday morning, not because they look to the resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth from the dead , but ( to come and Rub ) 
      As researchers are aware of the auditors, that the disciples of Christ what they were waiting for his death and resurrection to become the atonement for their sins .This is the context which proves the opposite of what he claims the narrators of the Gospels and Gather of it that Jesus of Nazareth died on the cross, and rose from the dead, making atonement for the sin of Adam and Eve.
      May respond to this context Someone says: It was already Christ of Nazareth that agreed with his disciples to meet with them after his resurrection from the dead on a mountain in Galilee, and evidenced by the words of Matthew:
       ((  Here goeth before you into Galilee, there you see )) and the words of Mark: ((that he goeth before you into Galilee, there you see as you said)) and that they were waiting to meet him on the Mount of Galilee and not dawn on Sunday on the grave .I say : These allegations are unbelievable and the reality of what happened, If we go back to the Gospel of Matthew we observe has said : (( Then the eleven disciples  went away into Galilee , to the mountain where Jesus had told them, and when he saw him, they worshiped him, but some doubted , Jesus came and spake unto them , saying, Payment of all authority in heaven and on earth , Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father , Son and Holy Spirit)) [Matthew 28: 16] This is the report narrated by when .But if we go back to the Gospel of Mark , we observe has said : ((Finally back for a tenth as they sat, and rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart because they did not believe They saw , and said unto them, Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature , He that believeth and baptized will be saved, and did not believe will be condemned , These verses follow the believers out demons in my name, and speak new tongues, and holding snakes with their hands, and drink anything deadly, not harm them, and put their hands on the sick Cure them)) [Mark 16:14]
      This speech is inconsistent with what reported by the Gospel of Matthew in many ways understood by every reader of texts, does not prove it to Jesus’ disciples were waiting themselves on a mountain in Galilee , but according to what Roy When: ((but some doubted)) and according to what was narrated by Mark : (( and rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart because they did not believe who has saw )) .
      If we came back to the Gospel of Luke, we find no trace of meeting Jesus of Nazareth With students on Mount Galilee, but in Jerusalem , It was reported: ( (puppeteers at that time , and returned to Jerusalem and found the eleven gathered them and who are with them, they say , The Lord has risen indeed and appeared to Simon, and the two, so they are Tells what happened on the way and how realize at the breaking of bread , and as they speak of this Jesus stood himself in their midst, and said to them : Peace be with you Afraid of and frightened and thought they had seen a spirit , he said to them : Why are you troubled , and why do doubts arise in your hearts ? Look at my hands and my feet, I am he, Handle Me and see, the Spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see me, and when he said This showed them his hands and feet)) [Luke 24: 33].
      The Gospel of John did not mention all the other reported on the Gospels , but not told things are made to the meeting Students Christ in the Galilee , or anything of that. But Roy meetings in Tiberias and others of us do not need to reflected in this regard .
      I hope the reader to manage all these texts quoted by him, and consider , if you prove one of them and of what constitutes the presumption of faith affirms the disciples of Christ by His resurrection from the dead and waiting for her ?
       
      the second Context : every sane thinker, it is assumed, if the intent of the
      existence of Jesus of Nazareth in this world that redeemed the sin of Adam and Eve and then dies himself from the dead ,
       And that this alone was the son of God the Creator of the heavens and the earth, and bar his father, and carries some of the forces of the Godhead,
       The intent and if so, these things in the eyes of the wise man the thinker, as I said , it is supposed to hear from the narrators of the Gospels ,
       That Jesus of Nazareth was waiting for verification that the intent impatiently on his hands , The signatory is his hour of death on the cross is in a hurry plus to it, to accept that sent him and found to be disobeying him, and not to appear when approaching time that , afraid of them, and return address , sent to relieve him of his mission that, as if sent does not have a heart of tenderness to his son , as far as has the tenderness of those who do not reside and Does not obey
       commandments of weight .
       If we audited in the Gospels , do not note the presence of this perception and assumption, and this presumption, but we see what reflectors just that. The Gospel of Matthew [26: 37] tells us what happened to Jesus of Nazareth of fear and panic, which his father sent him to implement it according to what they claim,
       It was reported: ((, and began to feel sad and depressed, he said to them myself very sad to death, tarry ye here and watch with me, and then forward a little, and fell on his face and prayed, saying: O my father, if possible Reflects this cup, but not as I will, but as you want You )) …
      When describing the event of Christ The Dent hour Commenting on the cross, that sadness and gloom to the extent that lost his soul and take prayed and hoped his father to relieve him of this task, but feared the wrath of his father used to say ((but not as I will, but as You)) …
       He adds when: ((He went away – that is Jesus – again and prayed: O my father , if not to express this cup , but drink it, thy will be done, and prayed the third time, saying the same words)) does not tell us any answer he heard Jesus of Nazareth from his father If you hear the word of his son, then at least he had to bestow patience and Comfort and encourage and affection, but this was the alleged father has a heart of stone more severe endocrine, and is palatable to the reader’s mind that this happens if the report narrated by Matthew true.
       The Gospel of Mark tells 14/34-43 claimed the same incident, but terms that are different .
      The Gospel of Luke narrated the incident verbally different, and he mentioned that the Messiah: ((he was praying in the strongest insistence of his race and became drops of blood coming down on the ground)). [22:41] ..
      The author of the Gospel of John did not subjected to mention this incident closely or from afar, as if he has not received news but that which is stated in the Gospel of John: ((Jesus spoke of this and raising his eyes toward heaven and said : Father , the hour is come – the glory of your son to glory your son as well, since I gave him power over all flesh to give eternal life to all of you gave, and this is eternal life: “You are that they may know the true God, and Christ alone justifies and sent))
      What created those words that they may know You the only true God, this is a particular unification, what is the status of Jesus toward the true God? The answer is ((and Jesus Christ whom you have sent)) means that Jesus admitted through this sentence that he just sent the Messenger of the true God , it is the Lord, nor is the Son of God, nor is the Redeemer. [John 17: 3] .
      I hope the reader to manage all reported here from the evangelical texts and see: Can a person, even from one of these texts confirm what constitutes a presumption that the purpose of sending and sent Jesus of Nazareth is to die on the cross and the atonement and Savior ?
       Is it mentioned in these texts it says that Christ was hoping to send the true God instead of Christ, another man redeemed the sin of Adam and Eve in his place and where the natural law recognized by humans since they found on Earth and , as expressed by saying : ( ( no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another)?
       
      Context III: every sane thinker, it is necessary to assume that Jesus of Nazareth  Spokesman for his appearance in the Torah, that the Torah itself has Germination for it would be the Son of God, and that he would die to atone for the sin of Adam and Eve and rise from the dead, and make atonement for those who believe in Him .If we go back to the conflict that took place between the priests of the Jews and the Christ of Nazareth note that there is no debate on this point and this doctrine, but about being a true prophet or a liar. That prompted the Jews to crucify Jesus and kill him,Is the text contained in the Book of Deuteronomy : (( staying for them a prophet from the center of their brothers like you, and my words in his mouth, Tell them everything commanded him, and any man who did not hear my words, which speaks in my name, I Held accountable it, but any prophet got used himself, he said my name, word has not commanded to say or speaking on behalf of other gods, that prophet Kills))There is nothing wrong to cite the same text printed at the expense of the Bible Society u . s a before that date ..
      The text interpreter there is a literal translation from the Greek 18/18: ((held for them a prophet from the center of their brothers like you, and my words in his mouth, Speak to
       all recommend him and be that man who does not listen to me speaking in my name, I ask him, and the prophet who dominates, my words did not take a Os to speak on behalf of other gods, that prophet dies)). There is no doubt that among the translations of some of the differences and that concerns us, including the last sentence of each translation in the translation of, the last sentence ((Kills the Prophet)) as well and received the last sentence 1989 in the edition of the other ((dies that prophet)) and between the two sentences is a clear difference. The first sentence identified by the death of the Prophet and the false orders to kill him ..While not specified by the death sentence, the other false prophet, does not make sense, in principle, be located in translation such as this difference in significance only to have translated the original meaning has been corrupted.I do not go into here in the order of this difference and address implications of the result sign of the two texts is that the false claimants to Prophethood die either before completing the mission, were killed or die, which sought to prove to the Jews denied Christ of Nazareth in his claim of prophecy. Jews are motivated by the biblical text in particular, sought to kill him and the crucifixion of Christ, and they claimed that they succeeded in their quest and Omatwa Christ on the cross, and proved it a lie and annulment of his prophethood, conflict, then home on the prophecy of Jesus of Nazareth and not about something else.Moreover, the Jesus of Nazareth said: (( Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets , I have not come to abolish but to fulfill them, I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth, does not go away one character or one point from the Law until everything is set aside one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so , called the least in the kingdom of heaven, and the work and knowledge shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven, I tell you: You are not your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Alfressen, will not enter the kingdom of heaven )) The important thing is that Jesus of Nazareth did not claim that he came by order violates biblical teaching, and that the doctrine of Atonement which a person believes the narrators of the four Gospels, expressly contrary to biblical teaching, Thus conflict that took place between the priests of the Jews and the Christ of Nazareth on his prophethood, and based on the text contained in the Book of Deuteronomy, if over the death of Christ on the cross, Jews are excused if they did not believe in prophecy, and as long as Christ himself did not claim that he came to something that violates the Education biblical, but rather to complement Since it does not break characters from the Bible, these things combined should be a presumption that it is impossible to be Jesus of Nazareth died on the cross, This presumption of a third checker Scholar tend to like me is likely not the death of Jesus of Nazareth on the cross .. And leave the reader to manage the features of this context and consider whether it is consistent with the opinion. I leave the reader to turn the words of Christ that we conveyed to him, on the facets, and consider: Why is the presumption in his view clear on the need to take the view not to the death of Jesus of Nazareth on the cross.

    • AFROMATIONS

      I must say this is a good read. I think you are correct in your interpretation as archeology proves you correct. Vesica Pisces is Egyptian/Khemetic… All Christ concepts can be found in this ancient land… even depictions of the good shepherd. Pythagoras is a man that studied in Egypt for many years… It is beyond no shadow of a doubt that a person who is a layman with any historical, archaeological, linguistical skills, basic logic and can overcome personal prejudice can see Jesus is a later construct as the EARLIEST CHRISTIAN BIBLES DO NOT HAVE HIS NAME IN THEM BUT IE AS DO THE EARLY TEMPELS DEDICATED TO THE SUN… DON’T GIVE ME THIS SACRID NAME ARGUMENT EITHER… POOOOWY….

      JESUS WAS A FALSE PROPHET… MT 16:28 “”Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.”

      ALSO COOROBERATED WITH LUKE 9:27, MARK 9:1…
      GREAT ARTICLE; DON’T GET FRUSTRATED TRYING TO ANSWER/EDUCATE THOSE THAT ARE SCARED TO LET GO AND THINK FOR THEMSELVES… THERE ARE A LOT OF SHEEPLE AND THIS LIE IS A GREAT ONE THAT HAS FOOLED MANY…
      IT WOULD UPSET MANY HERE THAT IF JESUS WAS REAL, HE WOULD BE A BLACK MAN… CHEW ON THAT!!!
      #afromations

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for your comments; those essays are part of a larger piece, they may not make sense by themselves.

    Yes – I realize that my understanding of the bible verses is different than the way they are understood by Christians – so I’m ‘interpreting’ them or twisting them; however, I’m interpreting them the way that Paul and early communities meant for them to be interpreted, early Christianity is clearly and openly a ‘mystery’ with several different layers, meant to be understood. This view is supported over and over again in the Bible.

    Did you read this post yet?
    http://www.holyblasphemy.net/2010/10/the-jesus-mysteries-is-christianity-a-jewish-pagan-mystery-cult/historicaljesus
    Please comment on the article so we can continue the discussion.

    • ????

       
       
       
       
      Indications that Christ did not die on the cross
      Context first : every sane thinker, is supposed to announce the owner of any call or message , from the first day of his call for frameworks mission and its goals and purposes , this is what is going on really at the level of reality around us, and that in announcing an explicit and clear as well, especially if this calling a prophet and a messenger from the Lord of the objects .
       The true his allegations owners Gospels that Christ came into this world to die for redemption sin of Adam and Eve and then rise from the dead , it was Necessary him to announce to the people, His disciples, in particular from the first day of his call , if doing so had to wait all these students achieve this miracle and eagerly patience as well. Have checked the reported news of the Gospels to us, did not notice the landmarks of this natural phenomenon ,
       At the level of words, addressed the issue of News put the body of Christ in his tomb , which Joseph of Arimathea and put it to the notice of Jesus’ disciples gathered around the grave hour put the corpse in it, but did not notice the presence of two women there ,
       When the angel told: (( and there was Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, sitting toward the grave )) [Matthew 27: 61] , Where is the rest of the disciples of Jesus of Nazareth ?!
       And I said to myself that they may have agreed among themselves to come to his grave on Sunday morning exploring his resurrection , Checks in the four Gospels, and I was struck by that is these two women had not accelerated to the tomb at dawn on Sunday, then they are Rush to meet Christ after his resurrection, but according to what Roy Mark Rush Rub  to perfume the body of the deceased, It was reported: ((and then went on Saturday bought Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome Hanuta to come and Rub , and very early in the first week – that is, at dawn on Sunday – came to the tomb as the sun rises, they said among themselves: Who will roll away for us the stone from the door of the tomb ?
      Looking forward  and saw that the stone had been rolled back because it was very great )) [Mark 16: 1]  Women, and Mary Magdalene, from whom, Speeds up to the tomb on Sunday morning, not because they look to the resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth from the dead , but ( to come and Rub ) 
      As researchers are aware of the auditors, that the disciples of Christ what they were waiting for his death and resurrection to become the atonement for their sins .This is the context which proves the opposite of what he claims the narrators of the Gospels and Gather of it that Jesus of Nazareth died on the cross, and rose from the dead, making atonement for the sin of Adam and Eve.
      May respond to this context Someone says: It was already Christ of Nazareth that agreed with his disciples to meet with them after his resurrection from the dead on a mountain in Galilee, and evidenced by the words of Matthew:
       ((  Here goeth before you into Galilee, there you see )) and the words of Mark: ((that he goeth before you into Galilee, there you see as you said)) and that they were waiting to meet him on the Mount of Galilee and not dawn on Sunday on the grave .I say : These allegations are unbelievable and the reality of what happened, If we go back to the Gospel of Matthew we observe has said : (( Then the eleven disciples  went away into Galilee , to the mountain where Jesus had told them, and when he saw him, they worshiped him, but some doubted , Jesus came and spake unto them , saying, Payment of all authority in heaven and on earth , Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father , Son and Holy Spirit)) [Matthew 28: 16] This is the report narrated by when .But if we go back to the Gospel of Mark , we observe has said : ((Finally back for a tenth as they sat, and rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart because they did not believe They saw , and said unto them, Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature , He that believeth and baptized will be saved, and did not believe will be condemned , These verses follow the believers out demons in my name, and speak new tongues, and holding snakes with their hands, and drink anything deadly, not harm them, and put their hands on the sick Cure them)) [Mark 16:14]
      This speech is inconsistent with what reported by the Gospel of Matthew in many ways understood by every reader of texts, does not prove it to Jesus’ disciples were waiting themselves on a mountain in Galilee , but according to what Roy When: ((but some doubted)) and according to what was narrated by Mark : (( and rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart because they did not believe who has saw )) .
      If we came back to the Gospel of Luke, we find no trace of meeting Jesus of Nazareth With students on Mount Galilee, but in Jerusalem , It was reported: ( (puppeteers at that time , and returned to Jerusalem and found the eleven gathered them and who are with them, they say , The Lord has risen indeed and appeared to Simon, and the two, so they are Tells what happened on the way and how realize at the breaking of bread , and as they speak of this Jesus stood himself in their midst, and said to them : Peace be with you Afraid of and frightened and thought they had seen a spirit , he said to them : Why are you troubled , and why do doubts arise in your hearts ? Look at my hands and my feet, I am he, Handle Me and see, the Spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see me, and when he said This showed them his hands and feet)) [Luke 24: 33].
      The Gospel of John did not mention all the other reported on the Gospels , but not told things are made to the meeting Students Christ in the Galilee , or anything of that. But Roy meetings in Tiberias and others of us do not need to reflected in this regard .
      I hope the reader to manage all these texts quoted by him, and consider , if you prove one of them and of what constitutes the presumption of faith affirms the disciples of Christ by His resurrection from the dead and waiting for her ?
       
      the second Context : every sane thinker, it is assumed, if the intent of the
      existence of Jesus of Nazareth in this world that redeemed the sin of Adam and Eve and then dies himself from the dead ,
       And that this alone was the son of God the Creator of the heavens and the earth, and bar his father, and carries some of the forces of the Godhead,
       The intent and if so, these things in the eyes of the wise man the thinker, as I said , it is supposed to hear from the narrators of the Gospels ,
       That Jesus of Nazareth was waiting for verification that the intent impatiently on his hands , The signatory is his hour of death on the cross is in a hurry plus to it, to accept that sent him and found to be disobeying him, and not to appear when approaching time that , afraid of them, and return address , sent to relieve him of his mission that, as if sent does not have a heart of tenderness to his son , as far as has the tenderness of those who do not reside and Does not obey
       commandments of weight .
       If we audited in the Gospels , do not note the presence of this perception and assumption, and this presumption, but we see what reflectors just that. The Gospel of Matthew [26: 37] tells us what happened to Jesus of Nazareth of fear and panic, which his father sent him to implement it according to what they claim,
       It was reported: ((, and began to feel sad and depressed, he said to them myself very sad to death, tarry ye here and watch with me, and then forward a little, and fell on his face and prayed, saying: O my father, if possible Reflects this cup, but not as I will, but as you want You )) …
      When describing the event of Christ The Dent hour Commenting on the cross, that sadness and gloom to the extent that lost his soul and take prayed and hoped his father to relieve him of this task, but feared the wrath of his father used to say ((but not as I will, but as You)) …
       He adds when: ((He went away – that is Jesus – again and prayed: O my father , if not to express this cup , but drink it, thy will be done, and prayed the third time, saying the same words)) does not tell us any answer he heard Jesus of Nazareth from his father If you hear the word of his son, then at least he had to bestow patience and Comfort and encourage and affection, but this was the alleged father has a heart of stone more severe endocrine, and is palatable to the reader’s mind that this happens if the report narrated by Matthew true.
       The Gospel of Mark tells 14/34-43 claimed the same incident, but terms that are different .
      The Gospel of Luke narrated the incident verbally different, and he mentioned that the Messiah: ((he was praying in the strongest insistence of his race and became drops of blood coming down on the ground)). [22:41] ..
      The author of the Gospel of John did not subjected to mention this incident closely or from afar, as if he has not received news but that which is stated in the Gospel of John: ((Jesus spoke of this and raising his eyes toward heaven and said : Father , the hour is come – the glory of your son to glory your son as well, since I gave him power over all flesh to give eternal life to all of you gave, and this is eternal life: “You are that they may know the true God, and Christ alone justifies and sent))
      What created those words that they may know You the only true God, this is a particular unification, what is the status of Jesus toward the true God? The answer is ((and Jesus Christ whom you have sent)) means that Jesus admitted through this sentence that he just sent the Messenger of the true God , it is the Lord, nor is the Son of God, nor is the Redeemer. [John 17: 3] .
      I hope the reader to manage all reported here from the evangelical texts and see: Can a person, even from one of these texts confirm what constitutes a presumption that the purpose of sending and sent Jesus of Nazareth is to die on the cross and the atonement and Savior ?
       Is it mentioned in these texts it says that Christ was hoping to send the true God instead of Christ, another man redeemed the sin of Adam and Eve in his place and where the natural law recognized by humans since they found on Earth and , as expressed by saying : ( ( no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another)?
       
      Context III: every sane thinker, it is necessary to assume that Jesus of Nazareth  Spokesman for his appearance in the Torah, that the Torah itself has Germination for it would be the Son of God, and that he would die to atone for the sin of Adam and Eve and rise from the dead, and make atonement for those who believe in Him .If we go back to the conflict that took place between the priests of the Jews and the Christ of Nazareth note that there is no debate on this point and this doctrine, but about being a true prophet or a liar. That prompted the Jews to crucify Jesus and kill him,Is the text contained in the Book of Deuteronomy : (( staying for them a prophet from the center of their brothers like you, and my words in his mouth, Tell them everything commanded him, and any man who did not hear my words, which speaks in my name, I Held accountable it, but any prophet got used himself, he said my name, word has not commanded to say or speaking on behalf of other gods, that prophet Kills))There is nothing wrong to cite the same text printed at the expense of the Bible Society u . s a before that date ..
      The text interpreter there is a literal translation from the Greek 18/18: ((held for them a prophet from the center of their brothers like you, and my words in his mouth, Speak to
       all recommend him and be that man who does not listen to me speaking in my name, I ask him, and the prophet who dominates, my words did not take a Os to speak on behalf of other gods, that prophet dies)). There is no doubt that among the translations of some of the differences and that concerns us, including the last sentence of each translation in the translation of, the last sentence ((Kills the Prophet)) as well and received the last sentence 1989 in the edition of the other ((dies that prophet)) and between the two sentences is a clear difference. The first sentence identified by the death of the Prophet and the false orders to kill him ..While not specified by the death sentence, the other false prophet, does not make sense, in principle, be located in translation such as this difference in significance only to have translated the original meaning has been corrupted.I do not go into here in the order of this difference and address implications of the result sign of the two texts is that the false claimants to Prophethood die either before completing the mission, were killed or die, which sought to prove to the Jews denied Christ of Nazareth in his claim of prophecy. Jews are motivated by the biblical text in particular, sought to kill him and the crucifixion of Christ, and they claimed that they succeeded in their quest and Omatwa Christ on the cross, and proved it a lie and annulment of his prophethood, conflict, then home on the prophecy of Jesus of Nazareth and not about something else.
      Moreover, the Jesus of Nazareth said:
       (( Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets , I have not come to abolish but to fulfill them, I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth, does not go away one character or one point from the Law until everything is set aside one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so , called the least in the kingdom of heaven, and the work and knowledge shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven, I tell you: You are not your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Alfressen, will not enter the kingdom of heaven ))
       The important thing is that Jesus of Nazareth did not claim that he came by order violates biblical teaching, and that the doctrine of Atonement which a person believes the narrators of the four Gospels, expressly contrary to biblical teaching,
       Thus conflict that took place between the priests of the Jews and the Christ of Nazareth on his prophethood, and based on the text contained in the Book of Deuteronomy, if over the death of Christ on the cross, Jews are excused if they did not believe in prophecy, and as long as Christ himself did not claim that he came to something that violates the Education biblical, but rather to complement Since it does not break characters from the Bible, these things combined should be a presumption that it is impossible to be Jesus of Nazareth died on the cross,
       This presumption of a third checker Scholar tend to like me is likely not the death of Jesus of Nazareth on the cross ..
       And leave the reader to manage the features of this context and consider whether it is consistent with the opinion. I leave the reader to turn the words of Christ that we conveyed to him, on the facets, and consider: Why is the presumption in his view clear on the need to take the view not to the death of Jesus of Nazareth on the cross.
       

      • http://www.holyblasphemy.net Derek Murphy

        Thanks Catherine. I’ll admit I skimmed over all of your copious writing, because I’m just not interested in what you have to say (I can’t tell if you’re responding to my post, starting a conversation, or just copying and pasting your own writings on something unrelated for some strange reason. Plus, the English is pretty broken and difficult). I could delete it, but just in case you don’t have a backup copy I’d hate to waste all that effort you spent. Plus the extra words will probably boost my pagerank.

  • catherine

     
     
    This set of questions facets of Christians believe
    that Jesus – peace be upon him – is a god ?!
       ……………………………………………………………………………………………….
    First question: if any of you imagine that he was helping Mary, peace be upon her in
    childbirth 2,000 years ago in a manger of the cattle , as in the Gospel of Luke 2: 7, be it for a moment imagine that this little baby comes down from her vagina is the Lord of the worlds ?!Second question: you claim that God came down and lived on the ground while your book says, “because it is God really dwell on earth ? Behold , the heavens and the heaven of heavens can not could hold you
    , how much less this house that was built?”. I Kings 8:27 He also says: “Hear you from heaven and forgive residency place ..” Kings 8:39 (Van Dyke)
     
    The third question: You say that God is unlimited .. How overwhelmed by womb of the Virgin Mary? And how it came out of her vagina incarnated on this earth that proportion to the rest of his property is less than the proportion of maize need? (Meaning what they describe), then if Mary was the bearer of peace written original (seriously), according to the Orthodox faith, and subject to death are also subject other human beings, how can God is perfect holiness to solve the humanitarian nature of the wrong doomed to death ?!
    Fourth question: tell Bibles that it had been Jesus’ trial before the high priest, and before the governor Pilate and before Herod while surprise that the Lord says in the Book of Jeremiah: “For it is like me and Trial me and who is the shepherd who stands in front of me?” Jeremiah 49: 19 (Van Dyke), it is believe ?
    Fifth question: How is Christ the God and the Gospel according to Luke 22:43 tells us that an angel appeared to him from heaven to strengthen him? “And he went out and went as usual to the Mount of Olives, and followed also his disciples. And when it was to the place he said to them: Pray that does not enter into temptation. And separated from them about a stone’s throw and knelt on his knees and prayed: Father, if you wish to allow this cup. But not not my will but your will. and appeared to him an angel from heaven, strengthening him. ” (Van Dyke)
    Now, not as you say Jesus Christ is the Son of God incarnate on earth, what he needed to uncreated angel from heaven to strengthen him?! Or is this angel does not know anything about the divinity of Christ ?
     
    Sixth Question: In Exodus 33: 20 the Lord says to Moses, “can not see my face because the man does not see me and live”. If a person can not see God and live, how the case if the prosecutor claimed that God resolved by man named Jesus ?

    Question Seven: your Bible says that God does not change as in the book of Malachi 3: 6, and Jacob 1:17, If the Lord does not change how you believed that he became man and made ​​himself as Paul says ?!
    Question Eight: your Bible explained that the recognition that man is God is blasphemy and blasphemous [Deuteronomy 13: 6_10] This clarification was before the coming of Christ .
    Question Nine: It is known that the Almighty God full of imperfections and impeccably well known that the supplies false inevitably in the full truth of God, for example, God does not lie nor wrongs nor sleep nor forget nor regret not die .. Etc., Christians recognize that God’s holiness an absolute and unlimited, and that any sin can not appear in His presence as a place of divine High Holiness and majesty. How, then, believed in His incarnation and commenting on the cross and bear the pain of the Cross. Any sins of the greatest of these in the right place of the High God and His holiness and majesty ?
     
    The Tenth Question: The author the Gospel of Matthew in chapter IV of his gospel from the first paragraph of the story of the experience of Satan
     of Christ, which states: “Then take Satan to the holy city, and stopped him on the wing of the temple, and said to him: If you are the Son of God Ask yourself down ,
     because it written, it is recommended you his angels, for their hands so as not to shock Ihamlonc a stone thy foot. Jesus said to him: also written: Do not tempt the Lord thy God, and Satan also took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and its glory. ” 
    Notice, dear reader, the words: “Then take the devil”. And note the word “suspended”, and note the words: “Then the devil took him also.” And note the words: “I see him.”No doubt that Satan was ruler in Jesus Christ as he was driving to wherever he wants Driven
     him!We ask : How can any sane person accept delivered his nature to believe that the Lord of heaven and the earth was in the body of Christ and this body was this the case with the devil?! Is not this the meaning of the case that the Creator God in the flesh had withdrawn the devil, and were echoed by the extension of its provisions!  
    It was written when in [4: 8]: the devil took Jesus to the top of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and said to him: “These give you all that I fell down and worship me.”(Translation of Van Dyke) 
    How in the devil tempted to worship him and to be the spirit of his theology. . . ?!
     It is strange that the devil does not stay with and prove the existence of angels and the saints, how coveted and prove those who believe that His Lordship and the image of God?
    Atheist Question Twelve: Is Jesus said to his disciples and his followers, it consists of a part theological and part Nasoti ? And it is fully God and fully human? Christians call for evidence for transmission of the Bible in the words of Christ to prove it.
    If Christ was fully human Does this mean that women, like any human being craves and that his penis fully erect penis, like any human being full?! If then the human nature and theology is a fundamental pillar in the Christian and a cause of division and war, persecution and hatred between Christians. What Jesus said about it? How to explain to them? If this is an innovation that invented after Jesus peace be upon him, how is the basis of religion and more things around the controversy has not prescribed by God and did not speak of Christ?
    Then, if your words were true that the human nature of Christ and the theology of worship, then why is humanity of Christ ( human nature ), and worship in Churches of you ?
    Was it not the first to worship theology that does not know its shape?! Because Christ’s head and his hands and feet and hair is human nature, and as you say you worship the this human nature.
    Finally, the principle of theology and human nature can be applied to most of the prophets of the Bible, we can say for example that the Prophet (Elisha) in the Book of Kings [4: 1.7] miracle of multiplying the oil theology, while he slept, ate human nature and who reads this miracle will find that the prophet (Elisha) did not want that he had witnessed in looking up to heaven, and bless it and thanked God as Christ did in Matthew 14:19. When Elijah split the sea, according to II Kings [2: 7.8] That was with the theology and the rest of his actions were with human nature !!
     
      Question XII: John [11:41] he acts contrary to Christ’s divinity, including: he lift up his eyes to heaven and prayed to Allah Almighty to answer him in achieving the miracle of reviving Lazarus …. “And Jesus lifted up his eyes to heaven and said: Father, I thank you because you heard me, I learned that you always hear me. But I said this for the people standing around me to believe that you sent me you.” (Translation of life)   
    Whom he was going blind eye to the sky if the father is the case?   
    Then think in saying: “For the people standing around me to believe that you sent me you.” The aim of the work of this miracle is that everyone knows that Christ is the Messenger of Allah was the crowd around him waiting for this miracle and that all that Christ is his request that the witness has only the letter.
    .. It repeats the same act according to Matthew [14:19] says: “He ordered the crowd to sit down on the grass. Then took the five loaves and two fish and looking up to heaven and blessed and broke and gave the loaves to the disciples .. all ate and were satisfied.” (Van Dyke) 
    Why raise the Christ look to the sky? And those who turn and asks if the Father united with it?! Or that the matter is clear that he was calling the Creator of heaven and earth to give him power to achieve the miracle?
     
    Question XIII: Luke wrote about Jesus in [6:12] it is stated: “In those days came out to the mountain to pray. And spent the whole night in prayer to God.”It is clear that as the Lord can not pray for himself throughout the whole night alone. Even now, Jesus is still praying to God for the faithful. Letter to the Romans [8:26, 27].
    Question XIV: Luke wrote in [3:23] it is stated: “When Jesus began his was about thirty years.
    ” The text mentions Christ as the call began at the age of thirty years, and the question that arises is that if Christ is the incarnate Lord, what did the Lord God before that period and throughout the thirty years?! Was walking in the streets of Jerusalem” ?!
     
    Question XIV: Luke wrote in [3:23] it is stated: “When Jesus began his was about thirty years.”   
     The text mentions Christ as the call began at the age of thirty years, and the question that arises is that if Christ is the incarnate Lord, what did the Lord God before that period and throughout the thirty years?! Was walking in the streets of Jerusalem?!
     
    Question XV: When written in [3:13] it is stated: 
    “Then Jesus came from Galilee to Jordan to John to be baptized of him. But John forbad him, saying: I need to be baptized of you and you come to me! Jesus answered and said to him: Let now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he suffered him. When he was baptized Jesus stepped out of the water, and if the heavens were opened to him, he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming upon, and the voice from heaven saying: This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. ” (Translation of Van Dyke)It goes without saying that if Christ is God himself, who embodies the world and came down to this world, as was his call for start-ups since its birth, and to the Holy Spirit inherent in him as a part of theology which is an integral as they claim and what I need to come down from it inspiration or message, and there was no sense at all to fall from his mission by the Holy Spirit and the angels fall from ascending descending inspiration and messages when he was thirty years of age and was adopted by John the Prophet! This text and other texts that show how to start a prophetic mission of Christ, the largest and most visible evidence at with impartiality and fairness on the humanity of Christ pure and non-divinity and it is not God incarnate but Abdul Messenger and Prophet’s envoy a message of God like other prophets and apostles and by.  
    To read what was written in Luke [3:21] the start of the mission of Christ the revelation of the Holy Spirit upon:  
    “And when all the people adopted adopted Jesus as well. While he was praying the sky opened up, and descended upon the Holy Spirit in bodily form like a dove. Was a voice from heaven saying: You are my beloved Son, your pleased.”We ask the owners of the Trinity: Is not this text is the clearest evidence to deny the divinity of Christ and deny the Trinity?  
    First : if Christ was God incarnate what I need to have the Holy Spirit to land it!Second, if the triangulation of Christ really was and always united with the Holy Spirit from eternity, because one of the three, what do I need to fall by the dove!
    And how God calls upon the adoption of Christ and the beginning of his mission, saying : (This is my beloved Son), with it’s supposed to be united by theology from the beginning and because God can not leave him one of his attributes.Third , what is not written by Matthew and Luke invalidate the claim  that the three and one Holy Spirit is separate from the self which is descending between heaven and earth and of the Son of the rising water!
     
    Question XVI: It says in the Gospel of Matthew [4: 6] that the devil after taking Christ to the holy city and stopped at the edge of the roof structure, said to him: “If you are the Son of God Ask yourself down, for it is written that he recommends his angels, for their hands Ihamlonc so as not to shock the stone trail. Jesus said to him: also written: Do not tempt the Lord thy God. “( Van Dyke)                                 
     In this text the adoption of Christ to the devil that he had written about in the Old Testament that God by his angels to carry it and keep it and we find that this constant Psalm ninety-one 
    Now if Christ is the Lord of the Worlds and Father united with him, and if so how it recommends the angels by God in order to keep it ?
    Is Lord of the Worlds, which appeared in the flesh the angels need to be preserved and protect him ?!! 
    Is this not evidence of evidence which indicates that corruption in the Christian belief of the divinity of Christ son of Mary, peace be upon him ? Then that what the Gospels tell of Jesus that the Jews were tortured and spat in his face and punched him and beat him and whipped him is contrary to God’s command to His angels to keep the Christ. Think!!
    Question XVII: It says in the Gospel of Mark [1:12, 13]: that Christ was forty days, tempted of Satan text says: “For the time directed by the Spirit into the wilderness, and there was in the wilderness forty days tempted of the devil. It was with the monsters. And became angels they serve. ” (Translation of Van Dyke)If Christ is the Lord of the Worlds, as Christians believe, or think it reasonable that the accursed Satan shed on the Lord for forty days?!!
    Might say Christians as they believe in the divinity and the human nature of Christ that Satan tempted as a human being did not try it as God, we say that the text contained in Matthew [4: 3] proved by do you think that the devil tempted by an agency, says the text, “came to him the tempter said to him: If you are the Son of God , tell these stones to become bread. ” He did not say to him that you are the Son of Man!
    Question XVIII: It says in Matthew 7:11 Jesus said: “Father in heaven, give good things to those who ask Him.” He also says at 12:50 of the Gospel of Matthew: “Because of does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and my sister and my mother.” It was also in Matthew 16:17 Jesus said to Peter: “Blessed are you, Simon, what you said this flesh and blood, but my Father in heaven”.Hope dear reader in the words of Christ to Simon, he did not say Blessed are you who I am I said to you or This is the Father incarnate announced this, but you said to him: “My Father in heaven” is declared to you this! 
    Christ has said repeatedly during the previous texts that the Father is in heaven, the question is directed to the Christians is:    
    How Christ declares that the Father is in heaven with the Father that you are calling it embodied and united with him? 
    If the father was with him and he united the image of the Father, declined to refer to in the sky!  
    In other words, if Christ is God, declined to refer to another god in heaven.If you said that the hypostasis hypostasis refers to the son the father, telling you that this prevents the unity between the Trinity and emphasizes the alleged secession and independence.
     
    Question XIX: The author of Deuteronomy 13: 1-3: “If in the midst of thee a prophet or a dreamer dream, and gave you a sign or wonder if there verse or Marvel that Klmk them, saying, Let us go after other gods did not know and we worship you could hear the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams for the Lord your God will test you to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all yourselves. ” (Translation of Van Dyke) 
    What I’m interested in the text he was calling to not to go behind the gods did not know and I worship , this warning was said to the children of Israel before the coming of Christ – peace be upon him – hundreds of years, so how can invite the children of Israel to worship the Christ – God forbid – and have the text forbids going behind the gods not known and Aabduha? 
    Say that the Church of Christ in the New Testament is the same God of the Jews I would say: Did the Jews knew and worshiped Christ before he came? Or is the call of Christ is a new worship them? Do you know the Jews worship the Trinity or is it a new call them? 
    There is no doubt that the Jewish people never thought trinity did not know anything about the cult of Christ … Church calls for permission to worship the God of the Jews and did not know any believer in God at that time … 
    The Church calls is strongly collides with the commandment of God to the Jews not to go after other gods not known and Aabduha … And therefore every Christian must not only hear the words of the church, echoing the words of the Lord: though there verse or Marvel that Klmk them, saying, Let us go after other gods we worship did not know and you could hear the words of that prophet ..
    Twenty Question: It says in Mark [13:32] that Christ after he was asked about the date time said: “But of that day and hour no chance to know one, not the angels who are in heaven nor the Son, but the Father.” 
    We ask: 
    If the Son is the second person of the Trinity as Christians believe, how the Son denies knowing about the same date and time is evidenced by the father only?! And can not be said that this point of his humanity came about because the exile son never knowing the date and proved to their father. The allocation of science and the date time of the father is the only evidence of the invalidity of Deity of the Holy Spirit. And not the alleged equality between the Trinity. 
    Says Father Tadros Jacob Malta: Before concludes his call to ensure he wanted to draw the attention of his disciples to not worry about knowing the times and the times, but get ready for ensuring continuous and awaited his coming, for this he said: “But of that day and hour, does not know the one nor the angels who are in heaven, nor Son except the Father. ” 
    To answer this, we say: Do not, O Father, you are entitled to accuse Mr. Christ lying .. For what ?? Even his disciples the times does not work ?? 
    Is when aspects of how not to engage in something you lie and say I do not know? Or is the more correct to say you do not operate it because you do not know!
    When he asked one of our Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him: When time is it? He said peace be upon him: – and what I have prepared for her? Without resort to lying to distract the man to the most important is preparing for it.
    Father Theaflaktios : [if he told them that I know but I do not time announced to you to Ahsenhm to time a little but not stop them from questioning the wisdom in this matter.]
    This interpretation has highlighted that the Son is separate from the Father … As Christ says Father Theaflaktios did not declare that he knows time so as not to feel sad from him, but you must pay attention, if Christ is God, even if he and the Father are one already, the idea that he would not tell them not to mourn the idea of ​​falling because he said to them, then that the Father knows and And conclude
     it is known and Christznon definitely, but this did not happen, because if the students believe that he and the Father are one that is, it knows the grieved in any way and are trying to Christ – and forbid – a failure, but they did not mourn, for they have understood the meaning of the words I and the Father and a true understanding and have accepted the only truth he did not know because it is not the father

  • catherine

     
    Twenty-atheist question: Is the Son is equal to the Father?
    John wrote at 3:35]: “the Father loves the Son has all things into his hand.”
    How can you be god eternal Son is equal to the Father in everything and who the Father is the Son, however, pay everything?
    It says in John 5:19: “Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of Himself but what He sees the Father works. For whatever He then doing the Son also. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all that is doing, and show him greater works than these you may marvel. For as the Father raises the dead and gives life, so the Son gives life to whom He will. For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son .. “. (Van Dyke)
    Here we find that the son, he can not do nothing of Himself but the Father is the one who gave him and show him the wonderful work …
    In John 5:26: “For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in itself.”
    No sense in giving the Son, and God is supposed owner of everything?
    In the Second Epistle of Peter 1:17: “For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him the glory Alosny: This is my beloved Son , I am well pleased.” (Van Dyke)Here we find that the glory and dignity of the Son from the Father, and it is not the same!In a letter, Philippians 2: 9: “Therefore God exalted him also, and gave him a name above every name, bow to the name of Jesus every knee in heaven and on earth and under the earth.” (Van Dyke)Here we find God is the one who would raise the Son, and gave dignity to his name every knee should bow .. So God is the owner of the true credit.And Paul wrote in the letter to First Corinthians 15:28: “When everything is subjected to the Son, the Son himself will be subject to the one who subjected everything to him, so that God is all in all!”.We have between Paul that Christ will undergo in the end God, and this in itself is of the clearest evidence of the non-divinity of Christ because God is not subject to one, and in saying: “the Son himself will be subject to the one who subjected him everything,” another sign of non-divinity of Christ Advantaged because this sentence that God is the one who had been subjected to Christ everything, which means that Christ could not, by itself and independent of God, and is subject to make fun of things. Will this be like a god ?!!
    Twenty-second question: Paul said about Jesus Christ in his letter to the Hebrews [1: 4: “After making himself purged our sins, sat down at the right of the Majesty on high, and coming the greatest of the angels as much as a name inherited the best of them.”
    Is it not in the words of Paul, that Christ has become the greatest of the angels is evidence that Christ was not the greatest of them then became the greatest of them? If Jesus Christ is God, how it becomes the greatest of the angels ?
     
    Question XXIII: Books of Luke in [4: 16 – 19]: it is stated: “He came to Nazareth, where he grew up. And entered the compound according to his custom on Saturday and had to read, and pushed him Isaiah the prophet. And when he opened the travel found the place where the written where: Spirit of the Lord, because he anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor, sent me to heal a broken heart, to proclaim release to the captives and the blind eye, and sent Crushed in Freedom, Akers year accepted the Lord … ” (Van Dyke)
    If this prophecy, which came through the prophet Isaiah is a prophecy about Christ, it says ((Spirit of the Lord)) of any revelation of God and that he did not say the Lord is the spirit of self or hypostasis… or in part or myself … What is your explanation for this?
    As stated in the Bible that the Spirit of the Lord resolved to Eldad and Medad, as in the Book of Numbers [11:26] Samuel and sanitation, as in the tenth paragraph six of the book of Samuel. Has been uttered by the prophet Ezekiel himself in his, as in the tenth chapter atheist fifth paragraph says Ezekiel, “and solve the Spirit of the Lord.”
    His saying that “sent me to heal a broken heart …” is proof that a prophet is the Lord, not descending to humans Almighty God, the great tyrants.
    Twenty-Fourth question: Is the revival of the dead Christ is evidence of his divinity?
    According to the Gospel of Luke [7:16] The Messiah after revived the dead, who is the son of a single woman, the widow of an event that all the people present and they glorified God, saying, “has made us a great prophet, and I miss the God of his people and went out this news with him in all Judea and in all the region round “.
    Christ here after that revived the dead could all present that the distinction between God and the Christ: therefore glorify God and witnessed to Christ prophecy and thanked God as sent in the children of Israel a prophet, and call themselves people of God as God (lose) any interested in it, and hopes – dear reader – how the Christ passed on this view, does not denounce them, and hopes to how fame in every place .
    In another incident, which is Christ, when he wanted to assess the death of Lazarus and the crowd standing around him, as in John 11:41, we find the following:
    “And Jesus lifted up his eyes to heaven and said: Father, I thank you because you heard me, I learned that you always hear me. But I said this for the people standing around me to believe that you sent me you.” (Translation of life)
    The purpose of Christ what he wanted from the crowd after the death of Lazarus live is to witness to him the message that only a messenger from God, like the rest of the Apostles : “For the people standing around me to believe that you sent me you.”
    Is it after this can any sane person to take Christ from the dead to revive the proof of the divinity ?
     
    Question Twenty-fifth: Paul says about God: ” Who Shows it in his time the holy Aziz only, King of Kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable, who has not seen one of the people is not able to see, which has honor and power everlasting. Amen. “(Timothy 6:16)The text says about God: (unapproachable) So it is that he was walking among the people in the streets of Jerusalem?The text says about God: (to whom the honor and power eternal) Where was his dignity when he spat in his face, and when they mocked him, and when I punched him? But where was the sacredness when drop Jacob in wrestling, which was between them, and arrested Jacob on his feet did not leave him until he blessed him, as in the Book of Genesis? Thus bullying to God? Who has the honor and power eternal? “Some began to spit it out, and covering his face and beat and tell him: ((predicted)).
    Was Altmonh servants.” Mark 14: 65 “and” They were beating him on the head a reed, and spit on it, then bow down to him Sitting on their knees. Having mocked him, they took off his purple, and clothed him with his clothes, then went out to crucify him. “Mark 15: 19-20
    Twenty-sixth question: Starter ratios Gospel of John 20:18 Christ said: “I spoke to the world public. I learned all the time in the pool in the temple where the Jews always meet. In secret did not speak anything.” (Van Dyke)
    Do you know what the meaning of this my friend Christian researcher on the right?
    Means that all the teachings of Christ were visible in the public and there is no secrets … Accordingly, I ask the following:1. Where Jesus said I am God?? Where uttered by his mouth?
    2. Where a request Jesus worship?? Where requested by mouth?
    3. Where Jesus said I am God manifest in the flesh?
    4. Where Jesus said I came for the original sin?
    5. Where Jesus said I am God the second person?Remember the words of Christ: “I spoke to the world openly  …  and in secret  I never talk to something.”

  • https://www.facebook.com/ogrecz?ref=hl Jiri Bryan

    Hi Derek. Two questions for the start:

    What about the other number (265) in the Bible? And where is written the meaning of vesica is a measure?